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tarheelgirl
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:42 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Does anyone know the rules on selling cakes with a certain sports team emblem on them? How about if you do a FBCT in lets say Batman? I have request all the time to do sports cakes with the sports symbol and I make them out of either a transfer, fondant or color flow. I seriously don't want to break any laws. I have state approved bakery that I run out of my home.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:46 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Short answer: It is illegal to recreate any copyrighted image in your own medium and sell it for profit without the copyright holders express permission.

People still do it, but it IS copyright infringement, and therefore a risk.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:57 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, we all do it! hummm


Ok.. well, then what about people who sell hair bows and quilts with the same logos or characters?


Guess we are all doing risky business!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:20 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

tarheelgirl wrote:
Yes, we all do it! hummm


Ok.. well, then what about people who sell hair bows and quilts with the same logos or characters?


Guess we are all doing risky business!


No we don't all do it. Alot of bakers offer cakes in a theme to match but not anything that they can get in trouble for.

As for people who sell hair bows or whatever with a logo on it that might depend on how they're doing it. If it's an image they purchased and sewed onto the item it could be perfectly legal.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry.. not accusing anyone of doing anything. I just know several people in my area that do it. Guess we are NOT all doing it..

As for the other items I listed.. they are also selling the products. Yes, they purchase the ribbon or items from the craft store and resell the product for a profit.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:46 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

It's legal if you use an item that was allready made buy the company. Like a cake topper. It's is not legal to make a cake where you made the character.
Disney is really strict and will go after you know matter who you are. Even if your a home baker. They prosecute but usually just make you pay there legal fees which are $10,000. That would bankrupt me so I don't chance it.
If you are not selling the cake however you can do whatever you want. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:47 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I would never try to duplicate something that was intricate and copyrighted because I would probably screw it up! And then someone would say "well, that looks like crap!"

For the reselling ribbon thing...is the ribbon already imprinted with the trademarked image in question? Because if the person who is reselling it doesn't alter the product other than twisting it up and gluing on a clip....what's the problem?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:52 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, the ribbon is already imprinted. That is the difference there then!! I don't usually use plastic items on my cakes.. If I ever have in the past I never charge for it that is something someone provided for the cake topper to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:31 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

That reminds me of the topic started by someone awhile back...why do you use plastic on your cakes? Don't you have more talent than that?? Geez...of course we do, it's a matter of not infringing on copyrights, or it's what the customer requested.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:36 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Jamie85364 wrote:
That reminds me of the topic started by someone awhile back...why do you use plastic on your cakes? Don't you have more talent than that?? Geez...of course we do, it's a matter of not infringing on copyrights, or it's what the customer requested.


It also is something that kids often prefer. My own children will pick a toy that they can play with after over something made of gumpaste that's going to get tossed any day.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:14 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

The customer is always right! If they want a plastic figure/toy on the top then that is what they will get.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:30 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

so let me get this straight, if you make a cake and put batman, incredible hulk, spider man, etc. drawing on this cake for a customer it is illegal? Who are you suppose to get permission from to draw a picture of this image?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:37 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

You have to get permission from the company. So to get permission for a Disney character you would have to contact Disney. It is not worth it though. It usually costs oodles to do this and I'm sure they don't give them out to just anyone.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:45 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I was asked to make a baby ruth cake for a co-worker. But I was thinking of changing the name on it to ie: "Babe Ruth" or "Bob Ruth" to reflect the persons name. I wonder if that counts? It's a good thing i'm doing this cake as a favor. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:57 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Honestly, when I do logos or a character it is in someway different than the original. I mean its not an edible image of the character that I printed. I usually make them out of another method and it varies.
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